MeetingMinutes20070513

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These are the minutes from the May 13th PEAR Group meeting, if you have any questions feel free to send us an email (pear-group at php.net).

These minutes will be posted on the pear website at a latter date. -josh


Contents

May 13th PEAR Group Meeting

Who

Attending

  • Arnaud Limbourg (arnaud)
  • Christian Weiske (cweiske)
  • Helgi Pormar (helgi)
  • Joshua Eichorn (jeichorn)
  • Lukas Smith (lsmith)
  • Pear President Greg Beaver (cellog)

Not Attending

  • David Coallier (davidc)
  • Martin Jansen (mj)


arnaud and lsmith left the meeting after the first hour cellog arrived 2 hours into the meeting

Discussion

Agenda for meeting is at: MeetingAgenda20070513

Making decisions (non-policy)

Decisions are made by consensus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus), any member can call for a vote if they disagree, voting has to be seconded If the entire pear group is available in a meeting voting can be done during the meeting otherwise an email vote is done Email votes should be a minmum of 7 days (or until all votes are cast) with sponsor of vote having the ability to set a longer time Email votes should be managed by any PEAR Group momber other then the membe rhwo called for the vote All Votes are final

Community notification will be on a case by case basis depending on the importance of the decision, with a minimum of an email to pear-dev A pear group member can call for a pear group vote to decide an issue by full pear election

action items

  • jeichorn - post this wording to the group for review
  • helgi - find a place on the website for items like this

Community Notification, increasing transparency

Minutes will be posted from each meeting to a new section of the website with notifications to pear-dev and website front page

action items

  • arnaud - sending current thoughts to the rest of the pear group and making sure everyone else is fine with our solution
  • helgi - creating a new section on the website to post minutes too
  • jeichorn - post minutes from this meeting

Vice President

candidates:

  • jeichorn

action items

  • postponing until after the runoff election to give winner a chance to be a candidate if they want

Meeting Schedule

Meet every 2 weeks, need at least 3 members present to have a meeting

action items

  • helgi - schedule another meeting next week

Constitution updates

Cover pear group tie for last position runoff Cover winning president less then 50% of votes Schedule election on new wording within a month

action items

  • cweiske will work on the language of the amendment

Defining Collectives

Goal is for each collective to have at least 5 packages Review with pear group, and then entire community http://wiki.bluga.net/pear/collectives We will need to create a guide to help collectives get started

action items

  • jeichorn- send out url and ask for feedback
  • jeichorn- put back on agenda for next meeting

Managing ongoing tasks

Were just going to leave this to whoever has time, we seem to be covering things well right now

action items

RFC Process

http://wiki.bluga.net/pear/rfc Working off current proposal Need to look at when to do a full pear vote

action items

  • jeichorn - get review from rest of the pear group
  • cweiske - create RFC section of the manual

Skip Items #9 to #11 on agenda

Licensing in general

were not going to push any license on the approved list, but we will discourage the php license on none extension code recommendations about handling multiple copyright owners on code, and license compatibility would be good recommend GFDL for the manual

action items

  • cellog - search for legal advice to help review current licenses

Mozilla Code and the MPL

We don't want another license in PEAR it's hard enough as it stands

action items

  • cellog - contact and mozilla and work out their concerns
  • jeichorn - find original pear-dev email

Review Suggestions

Need to cover more, with the rest of the group spent some time covering a new include proposal from cellog for pear2 that would solve include_path concerns

Prop Summary: 1 file per package that includes all its code Support autoload for people who want that PEAR2 provides an autoload class

action items

  • jeichorn - make sure all of pear group has read the comments

All other items on the Agenda were moved to the next meeting

General Action Items

  • jeichorn - start agenda for the next meeting
  • jeichorn - get minutes approved and published on pear-dev